saranduk ii

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+title: Shore / Saranduk II
+date: 2023-11-08T10:00:38+02:00
+draft: true
+tags:
+  - genealogy
+categories:
+  - genealogy
+---
+
+Seems some more entries from the revision lists have been put in JewishGen, with these new entries we were able to piece together some more of the family tree - going back to the 18th century.
+
+The earliest is an 1818 entry from Torgovitsa, Uman, Kyiv.
+
+| Last Name | Given Name  | Father's Name | Relationship to head of household | Sex | Age |
+| --------- | ----------- | ------------- | --------------------------------- | --- | --- |
+| Srondik   | Mordko      | Leyb          | Head of Household                 | M   | 25  |
+| Srondik   | Gersko      | Mordko        | Son                               | M   | 6   |
+| Srondik   | Khaim Gersh | Abram         | Nephew                            | M   | 20  |
+| Srondik   | Basya       |               | Wife of Mordko                    | F   | 20  |
+| Srondik   | Khaya Leah  |               | Wife of Khaim Gersh               | F   | 18  |
+
+We then have two more entries, both from Torgovitsa, from **1836**. One for the family of Mordko (presumably the same one) and one for the family of an 11 year old Avrum Nikhem living with his 35 year old mother. (Yes, the 11 year old male is listed as the head of household, not the 35 year old female. 🤔)
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+Here are the entries from Mordko's entry:
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+| Last Name | Given Name | Father's Name | Relationship to head of household | Sex | Age |
+| --------- | ---------- | ------------- | --------------------------------- | --- | --- |
+| Saranduk  | Mordko     | Leyb          | Head of Household                 | M   | 42  |
+| Saranduk  | Rasya      |               | Wife of Mordko                    | F   | 36  |
+| Saranduk  | Gershko    | Mordko        | Son                               | M   | 23  |
+| Saranduk  | Khana      |               | Wife of Gershko                   | F   | 17  |
+| Saranduk  | Nakhman    | Mordko        | Son                               | M   | 17  |
+| Saranduk  | Srul       | Mordko        | Son                               | M   | 15  |
+| Saranduk  | Khana      |               | Wife of Nakhman                   | F   | 17  |
+| Saranduk  | Feyga      | Mordko        | Daughter                          | F   | 13  |
+| Saranduk  | Reyzya     | Mordko        | Daughter                          | F   | 12  |
+| Saranduk  | Khana      | Mordko        | Daughter                          | F   | 2   |
+
+The second Torgovitsa, 1836 is as follows:
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+| Last Name | Given Name  | Father's Name | Relationship to head of household | Sex | Age |
+| --------- | ----------- | ------------- | --------------------------------- | --- | --- |
+| Saranduk  | Arum Nikhem | Khaim         | Head of Household                 | M   | 11  |
+| Saranduk  | Khvula      |               | Mother                            | F   | 35  |
+| Saranduk  | Beyla       | Khaim         | Sister                            | F   | 13  |
+
+Despite the slight variation of spelling in the name (СРОНДИК vs САРАНДУК) the dates mostly check out. For example, Mordko was 25 in 1818. That means he could have been born in 1793 or 1792 (at the survey could have been taken before his birthday). The 1836 census shows Mordko at 42. That means that, he could have been born in 1793 or 1794. So if we assume they are the same Mordko, and that both entries are 100% accurate, then we must conclude that he was born in 1793. The first census has taken after his birthday, the second census has taken before his birthday.
+
+For now, let's assume that Srondik and Saranduk are the same. And that the records so far are accurate. If so, we know that Leyb had two sons, Mordko and Avrum. In 1818, Avrum's son Chaim Gersh was living at his uncle Mordko's house with his wife Khaya Leya. Now, according to the 1818 record, Khaya Leya was either born in 1800, or in 1799, and the survey was taken before her birthday.
+
+In the 1836 entry, we have a person named Avrum Nikhem the son of a Khaim Saranduk, living with his mother Khvula who is 36. Now, to be 35 in 1836, you need to have either been born in 1801 or 1800. So if we assume that Chavula is Chaya Leya, and Avrum Nikhem is the son of Khaim Gersh we need to assert that Chaya Leya was born in 1800.
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+This is plausible, because we already know that the census taking in Torgovitsa happened later in the year of 1818 than it did in 1836 from Mordko’s case. So the 1818 could have happened _after_ both Mordko and Chaya Leya's birthdays - and the census taking in 1836 could have happened _before_ both of their birthdays.
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+Gershko, Mordko's son, was supposedly 6 in 1818. This is also consistent with the 1818 census happening later in the year than the 1836 census.
+
+But assuming that the data in these Russian census data are infallible seems dubious to me. Also, it doesn't work for everyone. I can't justify the 2 year difference in Basya / Rasya (I'm assuming really Basya?).