Lack of overall maintenance efforts or abandoned?

[mmzx]

Hi All,

For a while I did not need to install keter, but now I would need it and it seems to have several wounds. Is the project abandoned or would simply just benefit from more regular maintenance?

I would be very happy to help if there is demand for it!

Like,

• master brach is failiing to build currently
• CI script has old ghc versions in it
• maybe there is something useful in the existing pull-requests and some of them could be merged in?

[tolysz]

I still use it. The challenge is once you build it, there is no need to touch it.
For sure there is something useful in the PRs :P

[mmzx]

I am setting up a new server at the moment and ended up copying the keter binary from the old server. - which is not ideal. On the current version of FreeBSD the ghc version is actually unavailable (ghc-8.0.2 was used last time); so basically there is no chance I could compile keter on a recent version of this OS, well including Linux as well.

Again, I am happy to work on new PRs as long as the effort makes sense.

[tolysz]

You could try to build from the:
#195 ( https://github.com/tolysz/keter/tree/modernize )

[mmzx]

Compiles. Great. Thanks. :)

As a contributor you would be able to merge onto master, right?

[mmzx]

I have started making small modifications:
@tolysz , baseed on your branch modernize I have found the followings:

• keter's code is written using Internals of the process library. Which changes actually quiet a bit between versions, so I think it is not a good idea to use the Internal parts of the library. There are unhandled pattern-match warnings because of these changes of the internal API. By pinning process-1.4.3.0 to which originally was written against these issues are resolved easily without any extra consequence.

• additonally some easy fix is also provided.

• On top of these by having a new working CI script multiple ghc versions could be tested I think.

• By pinning process-1.4.3.0 for the time being newer lts versions could be used if needed.

[tolysz]

Contributor is a label for people who ever got merged into the code... nothing more. You need people with "Collaborator" labels :)

[mmzx]

Right! I keep putting effort into it, hopefully someone will listen up... - to the noise I make.

[tolysz]

The modernize branch builds with LTS Haskell 15.0... no need to pin process yet...

[mmzx]

The modernize branch lacks stack.yaml, so that definitely brakes the builds using stack.

[tolysz]

stack init && stack setup && stack install
possibly before all that
stack upgrade --git

[mmzx]

stack init && stack setup && stack install
possibly before all that
stack upgrade --git

Hm. Doing this would be against having pre-defined lts versions: and/or will require lts specific stack configuration files which results in no need to run stack init && stack setup.

[mmzx]

In #203 it is realized to have resolver specific stack files. Initializing stack config isn't needed any more, indeed it actually may fall back to a too old LTS version in some cases.
I will start adding resolvers and apply fixes to warnings.

[vaclavsvejcar]

@snoyberg It looks there's still some need for this tool, I also considered using that but on the other hand I don't want to use abandonned software. Do you still plan to maintain this tool? Thanks.

[snoyberg]

I passed maintenance of Keter over to @creichert a few years back. I don't know if he is still actively maintaining. If not, and if others want to step up as maintainers, I'm happy to have out maintainer bits.

[mmzx]

Please, please please! Volunteering.

[lucch]

There is definitely some need for this tool! 🙂

[mmzx]

Cross reference to #203.

[creichert]

Hey all, I am not actively using Keter anymore so of course my maintenance efforts have diminished as my time is required elsewhere.

I will do my best to help any new maintainers come on board and I'm happy to review PRs.

[snoyberg]

@mmzx @lucch I've invited both of you as collaborators on this repository.

[benjamingoldstein]

It is good to see this happening.

Did you all get the project back up and running again? I can't seem to run the install instruction command, as per issue #206

[jappeace]

@mmzx are you still maintaining this? could you please look at the pr's I made?

[mmzx]

@jappeace , thanks for the direct call-out! I am going to look at the PRs...

[jezen]

@snoyberg We're using keter regularly at Supercede. Any chance we could also be maintainers of this?

[snoyberg]

Absolutely, invite sent. Let me know if you want other people on your team to have access too.

[jezen]

Thanks Michael. The more, the merrier! Relevant people include:

• @jappeace
• @ivb-supercede
• @timds
• @cevantes
• @NikitaRazmakhnin
• @VarmaMSP
• @LukeTemp.

[snoyberg]

All invited

[jappeace]

Could you also make someone hackage maintainer so we can make a release? I have a bunch of nix code I wish to integrate in nixpkgs, that'd be a lot easier if there was a new hackage release. It's possible to run Keter from nixos with that code.

[snoyberg]

Sure, @jezen can you send me your Hackage username?

[jezen]

Yep! My username on Hackage is jgt.

Cheers!

[snoyberg]

Added :)